Transcription de A. Miller
Eddie Mair : [to camera] In May 2007, a trip to the sun turned an anonymous British family into people who were nationally and internationally known. Kate and Gerry McCann's eldest daughter Madeleine went missing in Portugal. Initial media support turned into suspicion. The McCanns privacy was treated with contempt by sections of the press who stopped at nothing to write something, anything, about the couple. When they attended the Leveson Inquiry, the McCanns were clear on why they had decided to take part.
Among the worst offenders were the Express Group, the McCanns were shown some of their stories.
GMC : That is nothing short of disgusting.
The News of the World also got hold of a copy of Kate McCanns private diary, and published it without telling her.
By taking part in Leveson the McCanns hoped that their testimony would bring about a change a change in the Law, a new press regulator with legal backing.
EM : Kate and Gerry McCann, you heard John Witherow, errr... just now, editor of the Times, former editor of the Sunday Times, saying that from all his private discussions it seems like, errr... the political parties are coalescing around this Royal Charter idea. If that's what we end up with, was going to Leveson a waste of your time?
EM : Could you explain from your point of view what's the practical difference between what Leveson wanted and what is now, what seems to be the compromise, what difference does that make?
EM : I am struck by something, errr... you are quoted as saying, errr... Gerry – The Leveson package, including legal underpinning is the mimimum acceptable compromise for us.
I just wonder, if it was up to you, if they gave you the power to draft something on the future of the press, what would you do?
EM : But I get the impression if it was up to you, you would go much further…
EM : People might not blame you, what would you do?
EM : Have you noticed any improvement in the press since Leveson?
EM : But even there. I mean, have things been better?
EM : And the recent story about Madeleine that you were unhappy with did you... did you try and speak to the... to the paper concerned.
EM : Do you have much hope that the change you want will come in?
Kate McCann Interview
ITV - 18.04.2013
Lorraine Kelly : Now, my next guest has faced an unimaginable nightmare for any parent, since her daughter Madeleine disappeared almost six years ago now while on a family holiday in Portugal. Since then Kate McCann has tirelessly campaigned for her daughter's safe return. One of the ways she does that is through fundraising and on Sunday she's going to be running the London Marathon and joins me now. It's really good to see you and then, I know you've suffered terrible injuries, errm... trying to do this marathon on Sunday. How are you?
Kate MC : I'm okay, I hope, errm.... I would say everything was going pretty well until about five weeks ago. The main problem is... is my feet really. I've had operations on my feet and they've done me well for the last twenty-nine years but I think it's been quite a lot; the marathon training.
LK : Mmm... It is hard, it is hard, you know, it really is, but you're a... you're a good runner. I mean, you've done, you know, fundraising runs...
KMC : [cuts in on Lorraine] From here or from...?
LK : [laughs] ... but you have done them before and done incredibly well and is it something... I guess it's.. it's a way of keeping Madeleine in the public eye as well as perhaps you doing something for her.
KMC : It is. I mean, obviously I'm running the marathon on Sunday for the charity Missing People. So it's not just about Madeleine. Obviously Madeleine is always on my mind but I'm doing this really to help lots of people who are missing; children and vulnerable adults and obviously the families as well, similar to ours.
LK : Of course. I think it's remarkable that you... that you're doing that because it's a real... it's a tough one to do, especially with injuries...
KMC : Yeah.
LK : ...errm... and especially in light of what's happened in... in Boston. I mean, there must have been a little part of you that maybe thought 'Mmm... I'm not sure'. It's actually taking the family to the finishing line.
KMC : Yeah, a little bit. I mean, these... these events always make you stop and think about things but, you know, we can't live in fear, we can't live waiting for somebody who behaves in an incomprehensible way to do something like that. I mean, there's so many people that have suffered in Boston already and like everybody else, our wishes are with them but more people will suffer if we don't turn up on Sunday.
LK : No, that's true. I've got a feeling that more people than ever will turn up. I think that the streets will be absolutely lined and it's the crowd that really help you. I mean, you will be fine...
KMC : [cuts in on Lorraine] I hope so.
LK : ...You're the kind of woman, you will do it. If you have to crawl over that finishing line, you...
KMC : [cuts in on Lorraine] I'm quite determined.
LK : You are very determined and you absolutely will do it, I'm... I'm sure... I'm sure that you will. Errm... and as you said, Madeleine is with you all the time...
KMC : Yeah.
LK : ...Of course, she's part of the family in the sense that you obviously talk about her all the time. The twins are very aware of their big sister, aren't they?
KMC : No, I mean, everyday Madeleine will come up in conversation, errm... whenever we talk about the family, Madeleine's always included in that...
LK : Yeah.
KMC : ...and they've... they've grown up obviously with their big sister missing but she's very much part of their life and they're always incredibly positive about Madeleine and what she means to our family.
LK : And the fact is I... inevitably you're going to be much more concerned about them, in the sense of wrapping them up in cotton wool and just, you know, being more vigilant. Of course... of course you will but, errm... it's getting a little bit easier. You were able, I think, the other day, to actually get petrol and leave them in the car rather than taking them with you.
KMC : Yeah, well that's...
LK : You could still see them all the time.
KMC : I was about six feet away from them.
LK : Yeah.
KMC : But I was very conscious that 'I am doing this and I haven't done this in the last...', you know, however many years and, errr... the car was locked and I could see them...
LK : Of course.
KMC : ...but I did acknowledge it as, errm... a change and I guess it's progress, in a way, because obviously that is safe [laughs], errm... and when they get a little bit older they are gonna have to have a little bit of freedom, you know.
LK : It... it's hard for anyone, you know, any parent to... to actually give their... their child that freedom; for you, doubly hard and that is going to be really difficult because, of course, you can't keep them... they've got to be allowed to fly.
KMC : You can't... they've got... they've gotta live, they've gotta develop and I know that and... but at the same time I know that it's gonna be a big challenge for me really and I'm gonna have to deal with it when the time comes.
LK : Completely understandable. As far as the search for Madeleine goes, that's absolutely ongoing, isn't it?
KMC : It is, yeah, no. The Metropolitan Police now have been doing the review for almost two years, errm... they're working really hard and we're really... well, we're really impressed with everything that they've done and... and what they've found actually and we're really grateful that they're so motivated and committed and...
LK : And we can see this image here of what we think she might look like but we... we... obviously we don't know but that gives people an indication and you've had so many over the years. You've had so many false hopes but actually it... it's better to have those than absolutely nothing, isn't it?
KMC : I mean, the most important thing to remember is people are still looking and, you know, we've... as you say, we've had thousands and thousands of sightings and I... I don't get really excited about them now, and then too ! you know, unless there's some big credibility attached to it but I'm just really grateful that people are still looking and they haven't forgotten. And even when the news goes quiet, you know, people are still looking...(1)
LK : Yeah.
KMC : So...
LK : And you can live a relatively normal life; relatively.
KMC : Yeah.
LK : But the search goes on. I mean, I know, because I know you and I know you will never... never give up.
KMC : No, we won't. We'll never stop and I don't think, you know, any parent could, to be honest, but we do... we do live fairly normally in between, errm... certain times and I think the fact that the Metropolitan Police are working helps as well because we don't feel like we're having to carry the burden and work every minute of every day, as well. (2)
LK : Absolutely. I wish you all the best for Sunday
KMC : Thank you.
LK : I know what it's like, errm... having done it before...
KMC : I know.
LK : ...you will be absolutely fine. You're... you're so strong...
KMC : [cuts in on Lorraine] Can I... can I just thank everybody Lorraine who's... who's sponsored the charity, so... we're grateful.
LK : Yes, of course, and if people do want to sponsor you they can go to the website, do all of that, they still can sponsor you...
KMC : Yeah.
LK : ...for a very, very good cause.
KMC : Yeah.
LK : Almost six years - it's unbelievable to think - have passed since Madeleine McCann was abducted while on holiday in Portugal.
John Stapleton : Today her mother Kate is preparing for Sunday's London Marathon and she joins us now, as you can see. Good to see you. How's it going? You've been training really hard, haven't you?
KMC : Yeah, no, it's been quite a slog and I think anybody who attempts a marathon knows there's a lot of training involved. And it's... it's gone well, really until the last five weeks.
JS : What happened then?
KMC : Errm... I've got a couple of problems. I've had recurrent achilles tendon problems, errm... to my right achilles - kicked off five weeks ago - and I've also, errm... got a problem with the joint in my... my left foot.
LK : Now, anybody else would have probably thought 'this isn't a good idea to do this Marathon'. Did you think about pulling out?
KMC : Well, I think at that stage, I think when you're so far down the line, it... it's really hard to pull out and for all the reasons, you know, I've... I've said I'll do it for. It was just so hard, so...
LK : Because you're doing it for a charity that is so close to your heart, aren't you?
KMC : Yeah, I mean, I'm doing it for Missing People and I think they need the support and if I can help in any way then I want to.
KMC : Yeah, I mean we've obviously had a lot of abuse over the last six years, so in some ways it... it's nothing new. I think we tend to get a little bit blasé, which is wrong because you shouldn't do because it... it... it's bad, you know, and, errm...
JS : This is internet abuse, is it?
KMC : It is internet abuse and we both feel very strongly that more should be done about internet abuse. (3)
LK : It's shameful, absolutely shameful, it really is.
KMC : It is. I mean, people wouldn't get away with behaving like that on the street, and yet they feel that they can hide behind a computer at home.
LK : It's totally cowardly, it really is, but you always... you always rise above it. You have to, I guess.
KMC : Well, we do, you know, but we do have children and, you know, even sometimes when I just think they're cowards and, you know, I'm not even going to go there, then I think about my children and I think it's not right that they should come across stuff like that as well.
JS : How are they, by the way?
KMC : Smashing, brilliant, really good, yeah. They're eight now, so, errm...
LK : It's extraordinary that that amount of time has... has gone... has gone by. It is six years now, almost, isn't it?
KMC : I know, I mean, sometimes it's hard for me. I think 'where have those six years gone?', I mean they've been really busy but at the same time it's just hard to get your head round the fact that...
LK : [cuts off Kate's sentence] But you do keep Madeleine's memory... you keep her spirit alive all the time, you talk about her all the time, don't you? The twins talk about her all the time as well.
KMC : Oh yeah, I mean, she's very much part of our life every day, errm... she's part of our family and she's included in everything that we... we talk about and plan.
JS : Are you still, understandably, very protective of... of your twins?
KMC : Well, yeah, I mean, I think I was a bit before anyway, errm... to be honest, errm... I am aware though that as they get a little bit older and it becomes natural that they should have a bit more freedom that that is going to be a tough time for me.
LK : It is hard anyway but doubly hard for you I would think.
KMC : Yeah, it's going to be a challenge.
LK : Definitely. Are they going to be there on Sunday, are they going to watching you?
KMC : Yeah, the family are coming and friends and...
LK : As we know, with what happened in Boston, which was absolutely horrendous, was there any thought in your mind thinking 'well, I'll do it but I don't want them at the finishing line', or are you just not thinking like that?
KMC : There was a little bit, I have to be honest. I mean, you know, it does stop and make you think and, you know, they hear the news themselves now, so they asked me about it, and I tell them what happened, errm... but then I talk them through it. I mean, they're fine. I suppose kids are different really, they don't always see the potential danger in things but, you know, I think the sensible thing is to go. We know security is gonna be good. I mean, as I said, errm... the other day, we can't live in fear and there's so much good that comes out of events like this, it's just wrong that more people should have to suffer, so...
LK : Absolutely.
KMC : ...we'll be there.
LK : Well said.
JS : We wish you well.
LK : We really do wish you well, and I'll be talking to you after half past eight. Its lovely to see you.
KMC : Can I just say, as well, 'thank you' to everybody who has sponsored me and helped the charity, we really appreciate it.
LK : Of course, and they can still do that can't they?
KMC : They can, they can.
JS : Even if you have to walk it.
KMC : Yeah. Thank yo
LK : You will do it, you will definitely do it.
KMC : Yeah. I'll do it.
(1) C'est ce qui donne une vie à Madeleine. On la cherche, donc elle existe.