transcrit par Nigel Moore
"Proactif" vs "actif" signifie donc que dans le premier cas on remue ciel et terre pour obtenir des informations tandis que, dans le second, on se contente de réagir quand les informations arrivent. Rappeler que l'affaire est classée au Portugal, puisque les MC n'ont pas voulu de la phase instructionnelle. Quid des informations collectées par leurs investigateurs privés ? Ne sont-elles pas transmises au LC ?
Depuis quand les investigateurs privés collaborent-ils avec les forces de police sinon en fournissant des infos intéressantes aux seconds, car la relation ne peut aller que dans un sens ?
Le problème est toujours eux sans Madeleine, jamais Madeleine elle-même, ou alors "ce qui lui est arrivé", comme si le présent n'existait pas pour elle sans eux.
C'est une menace que le temps peut réduire à néant, donc à éviter.
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Gerald MC ne perd pas une occasion de dire que la création de Madeleine's Fund a en réalité correspondu à une demande du public. Quant à investir la grande majorité des fonds dans la recherche, les comptes ne le montrent guère.
Quand ils étaient arguidos, la PJ ne cherchait plus ? Il y a en permanence, malgré le classement, un inspecteur de police qui reçoit les infos et éventuellement les adresse au Ministère public si elles présentent quelque intérêt.
Après les escroqueurs Francisco Marco (Metodo3) et Kevin Halligen (Oakley International) les MC ont engagé une équipe probablement moins coûteuse, mais tout aussi incompétente (voir l'affaire de Barcelone où il n'a pas fallu investiguer beaucoup pour s'aperevoir que l'équipe l'avait cousue de fil blanc).
La clef, c'est de se référer à des circonstances "très difficiles", sans expliquer pourquoi !
KMC : Have you talked about the petition?
Certes, mais GMC est bien imprudent... Euclide disait déjà que ce q4u'on affirme sans preuve peut être nié sans preuve. (pour "réfuter", il faut argumenter)... Le propos est simple à renverser et reste aussi pertinent : il faut questionner les motifs de quiconque cherche à convaincre les gens que Madeleine est vivante, sans appuyer cette opinion sur un élément matériel.
Kate MC a une sorte de génie de la diversion. Quels détails ? L'argument "nuire à la recherche de Madeleine" sert à tout. Quand ils ont appris que les PJFiles seraient accessibles à tout un chacun, et pas seulement à eux, ils ont immédiatement avancé que cela "nuirait à la recherche, les gens se taisant à cause du risque d'entrer dans les PJFiles".
DS : And just finally, can you update people: where are you now? I mean recently you... you went over to Germany; you translated all your literature into German. So, how... can you update people? Where are you now? Have you got any new leads? What's happening with your investigation?
Remarquablement Gerald perd ici une occasion de dire qu'ils ont des portraits-robots d'un homme portant une fillette correspondant tout à fait à la description de Madeleine. Si ce n'est pas un "hot lead" qui pourrait mener à MMC, qu'est-ce ?
transcrit par Nigel Moore
transcrit par Nigel Moore
Mais elle ne s'est pas dit ça quand ils se sont dérobés à la reconstitution.
GMC : It's hard, 'cause Sean and Amelie are great, there's no... absolutely no doubt about that, errr... Madeleine's still a big part of their life, errr... they very much want her back home as well, and our life is an awful lot busier now than it was before we went to Portugal, with the efforts that we're putting in and looking at ways to continue the search, so... But we, you know, certainly haven't given up on Madeleine like the authorities seem to have.
GMC : We're launching a petition asking the UK and the Portuguese governments to do more. Errr... essentially, for the last two and a half years, errr... the authorities have not been doing anything proactive to find Madeleine, errm... that's been despite our best efforts to encourage them to do so and, errr... I don't think it's right that the onus should fall on us; the authorities really should be doing more.
KMC : I mean, we had mentioned, obviously, we've met several, errm... home secretaries and we met Alan Johnson previously and he actually commissioned the report - the scoping exercise to be carried out by CEOP - basically to see if a review would be helpful, errr... to the search for Madeleine. So we did actually feel we were making progress and that report was carried out, errm... we haven't seen the results of it and it has actually been sitting with the government since March. Now, admittedly, we've obviously had a change of government since then but it's six months now and nothing has been done with the report. We're not even sure if it's been read, yet. It certainly hadn't been read in August we were told,
GMC : I think it's fundamental, you know, there hasn't been a formal case review and I think for such a serious case as this and particularly with the profile of it and the international aspects that that should be carried out and, errr... further inquiries, errr... should be determined as a result of the review, errr... and that's what we're asking for, and it's really... the onus is on the UK and Portuguese governments to, errr... sort that out.
KMC : No, I don't want to be appeased and that's what I feel, you know, that what we're getting at the moment. I mean, we need action. I don't need fluffy, worthless words. We need somebody to do something. I mean, Madeleine's still missing, you know; she's a little girl. Her abductor is still out there, so, potentially, you know, by not carrying on with the investigation we're putting other children at risk. Errm... I think more needs to be done.
GMC : I... I think you're right. What we... we actually asked at the last meeting was to have some metrics, errr... by which to judge prose... errr... progress and at the minute there's no time scales, there's no deliverables, and it's really difficult to see what the governments are actually doing. Errm... And it... without seeing what they're doing, it seems like they're doing nothing.
KMC : Well, you'd like to think we're all par... you know, we're in the European Union here, you know, we're all within Europe. Surely, countries can work together, you know. I don't... I don't understand why that should be a problem. Errm... I'd like to assume that both governments value children; feel that finding a missing child is a worthwhile cause, and obviously if people work together we're more likely to get a result. I mean, what I'd like to know is why they don't want to do... to do a review, if that's the case, because, at the minute, we're not getting any reasons for or against.
L'opinion publique aurait aussi aimé comprendre pourquoi KMC n'avait pas voulu répondre aux questions de la PJ, quand l'enquête était "chaude".
GMC : Yeah, I mean, I think the best thing is for this case to be solved and, at the minute, errm... you know, the authorities are not doing anything proactive to try and do that.
KMC : Children do get found, years down the line, you know. There's no evidence to say Madeleine's not out there alive, so it's just heartbreaking to think that nothing is getting done other than what we're having to do... what our small team is doing itself. For, obviously, a small team has limitations, you know. If we had a review, if we had help from the authorities, the chances of us finding Madeleine would be much greater, I think.
10 ans après la preuve n'a pas été faite. Aurait-il mieux valu ne pas gaspiller l'argent du fonds dans des assignations en justice et investir dans la recherche ?
GMC : Well, you know, we have that; a small team who have been working away and, errm... they're paid out of the fund and, errm... you know, there are substantial costs associated with that. I mean, today we are really asking for help in terms of people signing the petition; fundraising is a secondary objective at this point. But, you know, it's about the petition, asking people to help to put pressure on the authorities, errr... to do what they should have done all along. Errr.... But, you know, in the interim, we're carrying on, errm... with inquiries, we're interviewing witnesses, dealing with new information and continuing... continually reviewing the information available to us. But it's also important to emphasise that we do not have all of the information. There is, errr... information that went into the inquiry, errm... that was not made public when the file was disclosed and therefore it's impossible for our team to review everything because we simply don't have access to it. One of the questions is, we don't know how much information there is but there's a number of, errr... instances where we know that... we know information went in and it wasn't put into the file.
Reporter : So, have you, kind of, have you got these missing pieces of the jigsaw that you're trying to get...
GMC : Absolutely. And, of course, the team also does not have any statutory authority; no-one has to speak to them. Errm... so, I think, you know, what we're asking for the governments to do is to organise an independent, thorough and, hopefully, transparent review.
KMC : You know, this is something that's not uncommon in our country; is to do a review. Reviews are done frequently which indicates both the governments and the authorities think it's a worthwhile, you know, tool really, to aid an investigation. We're three and a half years down the line and there hasn't been one single review. So...
Reporter : And you'd like to know why?
KMC : Well, I'd like to know why and I... I'd like it to be done because we truly believe it will...
GMC : [interrupting] We'd like to know...
KMC : ...take us that step closer to finding Madeleine.
GMC : We'd like to know why not? Why are they not doing it?
KMC : It's not that the boulder gets any lighter, you just get stronger, your legs are able to carry it; and I think that's true. And I think you... you adapt to the situation really, you learn different coping mechanisms, errr.... it doesn't mean that the pain's any less, it doesn't mean that the... you know, the whole issue is any less important. Of course, it's not, you know. We haven't got our daughter; Sean and Amelie haven't got their sister. I mean, our family's not complete and we can't stop, you know, it doesn't matter how tired you are, we're on this treadmill and we can't stop until we find Madeleine, or at the very least find out what's happened. You know, but that... that ordeal would be, you know, much more bearable if we had more assistance.
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